tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7677534242792049022.post5958479127421999912..comments2023-09-02T07:53:37.181-04:00Comments on Nature and Wildlife Photography: A Photo Edit - Black and White Red FoxNikographerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09912548544508648036noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7677534242792049022.post-36167970720902091092010-09-10T21:20:01.593-04:002010-09-10T21:20:01.593-04:00What's probably strange is - when I hear "...What's probably strange is - when I hear "remove that branch" or "you should have cloned out that..." <b>that</b> bugs me more than if I or someone were to adjust the light levels all across an image.<br /><br />I think light levels are like volume on a sound, the sounds are the same. And removing something by cloning it out, that's more like rewriting the image... IDK. <br /><br />Occasionally I might clone a little something here or there, but I avoid that generally. I will always adjust exposure levels, and WB to "get it right", and when I feel adventureous I will edit the light levels with a more granular bit of control. And I do that too with sharpness - adding sharpness to just some of an image.Nikographerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09912548544508648036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7677534242792049022.post-45013669425391287962010-09-10T21:08:13.396-04:002010-09-10T21:08:13.396-04:00I struggle with how much artistic license to take....I struggle with how much artistic license to take. For instance, I have an image of a muted sunrise scene. I like the image, but it is stronger when I adjust the the color temperature in the RAW imaage. The blue cast from the adjustment looks natural, and the rest of the image is as shot. So, am I an artist who paints the scene how she fits best? am I a photographer capturing the moment, or some combination thereof? To what extent does nature as a subject (versus people or product photography) compel the author to publish more truly to what came out of the camera.<br /><br />I have accidentally overexposed scenes and the results were striking. So is a "happy accident" any more or less acceptable than changing the light temperature or removing an extraneous element (like a distracting branch)? Does the photographer have an obligation to share their artistic license with the viewer if they have made lighting changes, cloned elements, etc? Seems like a matter of degree...<br /><br />On the fox - very effective adjustments...it's often the small adjustments in contrast and light levels that help direct a user's eyes and draw them through the photos. Well done!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08378428910385713513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7677534242792049022.post-23238687593659726012010-09-10T03:48:42.801-04:002010-09-10T03:48:42.801-04:00Great process, I am just starting to work in B&...Great process, I am just starting to work in B&W, so any hints that I come across are gold to me right now.<br />Cheers<br />DADFAPThe Online Journohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05991453455203118611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7677534242792049022.post-72305713835900324592010-09-09T23:41:25.561-04:002010-09-09T23:41:25.561-04:00Nice work and good description how Lightroom can b...Nice work and good description how Lightroom can be used with this type of image. I agree that to portray the image one "saw" in their mind when composing with the camera it is reasonable to clean up the image removing distractions that were not seen during composing or could not be avoided. The B&W processed image does pull my eye much more to the fox's head compared to the color image. I would describe it as stepping the composition towards minimalism, if even just a little. But I think that is just good composition - with the camera and/or with post processing.Joe (vidular)https://www.blogger.com/profile/12285733583694649425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7677534242792049022.post-75083611033082260632010-09-09T23:32:55.430-04:002010-09-09T23:32:55.430-04:00I like what you did, the fox head is much more the...I like what you did, the fox head is much more the center of attention compared to the color image in my opinion. As for cloning out distractions and cleaning up parts of the image, I agree. Sometimes distractions are just not seen when composing or cannot be avoided. Unless you are documenting a crime scene they detract from what you "saw" when shooting so I feel it is justified to do such cleaning. Very nice work.Joe (vidular)https://www.blogger.com/profile/12285733583694649425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7677534242792049022.post-67673393336388414612010-09-09T22:18:26.080-04:002010-09-09T22:18:26.080-04:00I totally agree with the baiting and such. Same w...I totally agree with the baiting and such. Same with tame animals...that's just not wildlife! Might at well just go to the zoo if you're going to do that or at the very least make it known to people viewing the photo. <br /><br />I am torn on calls though. I use calls hunting and it's one of the most effective ways to hunt and it's considered an ethical technical across the board. Never have used one photographing, so I just have no knowledge on that aspect.<br /><br />I agree and understand with clearing things up for others...as you said, "I and you know it, but other's might not." <br /><br />Very true.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00362301260099965700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7677534242792049022.post-88392202565715747622010-09-09T21:33:20.497-04:002010-09-09T21:33:20.497-04:00While I do agree with that post Matt, I also want ...While I do agree with that post Matt, I also want to share something regarding my images. They are NOT just what I saw many times. I like to be true to the location and subject or animal, but, it often doesn't come out of the camera like I post it. I don't clone and copy and remove with abandon... but.<br /><br />While I know that, and you probably know that, I think some others may not.<br /><br />And what I also wish others did was post when they used bait or calls to lure in subjects for images. While I as a rule don't use bait or calls, others do, and often get images that are both unnatural and unreal compared to what you might expect to get if you stumbled upon the same subject....<br /><br />So, I don't share the edit technique purely to share how I did it - but to share the fact that often work is done on images to MAKE them - and if you aren't aware that these steps exist you may never get a similar photo of your own.... <br /><br />Make sense? hope so.Nikographerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09912548544508648036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7677534242792049022.post-44939582316324620442010-09-09T20:42:56.926-04:002010-09-09T20:42:56.926-04:00Purest's are outdated! You've got a great...Purest's are outdated! You've got a great process. Not what I do, but just cause it's different doesn't mean it's wrong.<br /><br />Along the lines of your topic, a perfect article about editing:<br /><br />http://photofocus.com/2010/08/14/products-and-people-over-process-and-dogma/<br /><br />Great work Jon!Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00362301260099965700noreply@blogger.com